tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post4529482418114235930..comments2023-10-31T12:17:42.008+00:00Comments on Adventures in the Print Trade: Tender agony: the tragic fate of Pierre-Paul Prud'hon and Constance MayerNeilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18020242863144175965noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-14375774702303018032015-11-25T18:58:12.009+00:002015-11-25T18:58:12.009+00:00Thanks Neil - will see if i can get it from the BL...Thanks Neil - will see if i can get it from the BL.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05210880400144302016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-49374258353613327542015-10-20T11:15:45.579+01:002015-10-20T11:15:45.579+01:00Annabel, There's a 1927 monograph by Edmond Pi...Annabel, There's a 1927 monograph by Edmond Pilon, but I've not seen it. She does seem to have been very much neglected by art historians, as if her life and work were mere adjuncts to Prud'hon. NeilNeilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020242863144175965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-68150827671092619022015-10-20T11:15:44.891+01:002015-10-20T11:15:44.891+01:00Annabel, There's a 1927 monograph by Edmond Pi...Annabel, There's a 1927 monograph by Edmond Pilon, but I've not seen it. She does seem to have been very much neglected by art historians, as if her life and work were mere adjuncts to Prud'hon. NeilNeilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020242863144175965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-15825939600187182652015-10-19T15:25:55.005+01:002015-10-19T15:25:55.005+01:00Hi Neil - this is fantastic. I am desperately try...Hi Neil - this is fantastic. I am desperately trying to find out more about Constance. There seem to be no biographies and very little else (other than appearances in books such as Greer's). If you can recommend a source or a book that provides any further information, i would love to know what it is!<br />Thanks<br />Annabel Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05210880400144302016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-35225598323998753662013-10-01T01:42:18.826+01:002013-10-01T01:42:18.826+01:00Thank you Soo much.. Very insightful !!!!
Kind R...Thank you Soo much.. Very insightful !!!! <br /><br />Kind Regards<br />Rafael AlbertiAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17239697169921553767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-11940628683561425252013-09-30T10:13:00.777+01:002013-09-30T10:13:00.777+01:00Hi Rafael, Most of the original prints in the Gaze...Hi Rafael, Most of the original prints in the Gazette des Beaux-Arts are intaglio - etchings, engravings, or drypoints, or sometimes a mixture of these techniques. There are also some planographic prints such as lithographs, and some relief prints such as wood engravings or woodcuts. What distinguishes them as original prints is that they have been printed from the original copperplate, lithographic stone, or woodblock. With only a very few exceptions, all the original prints in the Gazette were printed as individual plates, to be inserted into the revue at predetermined page numbers (though often I find that the binders have inserted the plates randomly). However, not all the individual plates are original prints. Some are reproductions of various kinds. The table of Gravures at the end of each volume can be confusing, and the word gravure is used loosely, covering original prints and reproductions. So for instance the list of Gravures for January 1875 includes 3 plates, only one of which is original. The first, Vittoria Colonna after Michelangelo is listed as a héliogravure by Amand Durand; the second Le Baron de Vick, is listed as a gravure de M. Waltner, d'après Rubens; the third, Hispania, is listed as a photogravure by Goupil. The original print is the gravure by Waltner, which is a mixture of etching and engraving. The following month has 3 plates: a gravure by Haussoullier which is actually an etching, another photogravure by Goupil, and an eau-forte by Waltner which is an etching with drypoint. At this period the text illustrations are mostly line blocks or sometimes wood engravings (wood engravings could easily be printed alongside type because the blocks were made at exactly the same pica height, just for this purpose). By 1905 the text illustrations are mostly photographs reproduced as screened halftones (if you look at them through a magnifying glass, they resolve into dots). But the mix of plates is very similar: in the first two months, four original prints (two listed as gravure au burin, two listed as eau-forte), and three reproductions (two listed as héliogravure, one as photogravure). Despite the occasional mistake, I have found the reference work Les Estampes de la Gazette des Beaux-Arts 1859-1933 by Pierre Sanchez and Xavier Seydoux an invaluable guide through this minefield of gravures. For 1869 they list and meticulously describe 27 different prints, though they do miss the Prud'hon lithograph.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020242863144175965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-30379934079678415332013-09-29T19:19:27.124+01:002013-09-29T19:19:27.124+01:00May I ask a question concerning prints. I am a no...May I ask a question concerning prints. I am a novice but love your site. I have a Gazette and I understand when they state Eau-Forte its an etching Intaglio. What are the other Gravures considered that are part of the magazine? Soft-ground etchings ? Litho? Roto-gravure? Thank you for your insight.<br />Rafael AlbertiAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17239697169921553767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-91813065068820060192013-09-29T11:24:53.844+01:002013-09-29T11:24:53.844+01:00Many thanks, Rafael, that's very useful inform...Many thanks, Rafael, that's very useful information. Since I wrote this post I've acquired a copy of the second Gazette des Beaux-Arts lithograph, La lecture, as well.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020242863144175965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-73182017903313786982013-09-28T16:54:06.098+01:002013-09-28T16:54:06.098+01:00Gazette Beaux arts December 1869
Les FILS DE GOUV...Gazette Beaux arts December 1869<br /><br />Les FILS DE GOUVION SAINT-CYR, Lithographie tiree de la Pierre Originale de Prud'hon. Gette Lithographie trouvera sa place dans le tome III<br /><br />Its there!!!!<br />Rafael AlbertiAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17239697169921553767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-32527012922796898822012-12-17T09:09:44.598+00:002012-12-17T09:09:44.598+00:00Hope it turns out to be genuine, Fishwhacker.Hope it turns out to be genuine, Fishwhacker.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020242863144175965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-78515421572907569922012-12-16T18:52:54.881+00:002012-12-16T18:52:54.881+00:00Thanks for sharing this story. I recently discover...Thanks for sharing this story. I recently discovered a painting which may very well be an unknown oil by Prud'hon, it is signed and dated 1797 and housed in an original 18th century giltwood frame. I am currently in the process of having it authenticated, but would be more than happy to share a photo for you to look at if so desired.Fishwhackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217322144081973960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-76219138120971865452012-05-20T23:29:03.038+01:002012-05-20T23:29:03.038+01:00Jane, the child and dog lithograph is the spur to ...Jane, the child and dog lithograph is the spur to this post, as I acquired it fairly recently. I was excited to have an original lithograph by Prud'hon, and wanted to research the print. I think this may be the last print Prud'hon made; he seems to have picked up the lithographic technique very quickly.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020242863144175965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-65848932834310515322012-05-20T19:46:40.141+01:002012-05-20T19:46:40.141+01:00Thanks, Nancy. As Jane comments, there are a lot o...Thanks, Nancy. As Jane comments, there are a lot of these star-crossed relationships between older male artists and younger female ones. Rodin and Camille Claudel is probably even sadder than Rodin and John.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020242863144175965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-11089039895167266862012-05-20T17:29:07.361+01:002012-05-20T17:29:07.361+01:00So many female artists have been mistaken in think...So many female artists have been mistaken in thinking that a fellow artist would be a kindred spirit. Add to that the injustice of having their own works overshadowed and obscured because of the association. To name just one: Gwen John and Auguste Rodin. <br />The child and the dog is very nice image. The fleeting actions captured in a painstaking medium - is that why you gave it pride of place?Jane Librizzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943563452168571716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-340634554199883217.post-84058267420717825122012-05-19T18:20:19.783+01:002012-05-19T18:20:19.783+01:00What a fascinating and tragic story!What a fascinating and tragic story!Nancy Patton Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00784946341053303253noreply@blogger.com